Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monochrom

Monochrom

New vfd

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Nomination withdrawn. utcursch | talk 11:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vanity. Delete. Was moved to Votes for deletion earlier, but was saved by IP Edit keeps, non-existant users ~~and possibly sock-puppets~~ (have a look at the contributions of users who voted to keep. utcursch 09:41, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Keep but edit down! Agree with the concerns about who voted to keep article, may have value to keep in a heavily edited down form Jschwa1 12:35, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Strong keep. Having a myriad of sockpuppets, while annoying, is not a reason to delete an article. Several very narrow Google searches clearly demonstrate that this organization is noteworthy, especially within Austria. I hate to say it, but the sockpuppets were right. Move on. [[User:GRider|GRider\^talk]] 17:14, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Yay sockpuppets, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Keep. --fvw * 03:13, 2004 Dec 22 (UTC)
Needs a great deal of cleanup. Perhaps the sockpuppets would like to lend a hand? Alphax (talk) 04:15, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
Keep, no reason for deletion (nor heavy editing, m:Wiki is not paper). Dan100 10:03, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
Keep. I've done some copyediting and removed some of the hype and excessive detail. --LeeHunter 16:19, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Keep and Cleanup - speaking as a proud sock puppet, I'd like to lend a hand. What needs to be done? - Verres
i'm one of the people who edited the page, so of course i say keep, but if work has to be done i'm certainly willing to help. Stabilo
Hello, folks! I'm Johannes and I'm one of the members of monochrom. Because of this I'm not going to cast a vote here. I'm just highly amused how eagerly the Wikipedia community tries to figure out if we are important or not. I can tell you that I know some of the guys who edited the monochrom page, some are just fans, some are people from the Austrian and German art scene. After all, I would like to assure you that the summary is well researched, no errors. Most of them are rewrites of texts taken from catalogues. I always loved the collection of 'recurring topics' that LeeHunter now removed, but whatever... maybe something for Talk:Monochrom. Ok, have a nice wikithingy and nerdy season's greetings! Grenz 20:58, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Incidentally, utcursch, how do you justify the accusation of "sockpuppet"? Nothing seems to indicate that they're the same person. The far more likely explanation is that they were different people, fans of Monochrom, who found out about this VfD from the same source. Misusing "sock puppet" to mean non-Wikipedians who arrive at the same time for the same reason is elitist, plus it's going to dilute the term. RSpeer 05:27, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)
- Well, I would like to emphasize that I said possibly sock-puppets. I didn't mean to hurt anybody. Anyway, I will say sorry for that. But, I still maintain that User:Fra is non-existant, User:Jope has only two contributions, User:Smurfit's only contribution is keep vote on this page. User:Hans and Michael never voted keep (these were IP Edits). I will apologize User:Verres (Philipp). utcursch 06:56, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)
  - I'm one of the editors of the page and proud fan and sockpuppet, too (hi Verres). I remember someone posted the VfD on a media art mailing list and some people dropped in to vote. Quite possible they are first-time wikipedians. Interstellarpoliceman 01:43, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK. I finally remove the vfd tag. Convinced of notability. utcursch 05:13, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Old vfd

Keep - Monochrom is today's most important Austrian art group, had projects all over the world, represented Austria in the Biennale 2002 in Sao Paulo and is the #1 hit for the word "monochrom" (meaning monochrome in German) in Google. Also, they have been around for over 10 years now, meaning that monochrom is clearly not one of those "let's get a name, do a project and vanish"-groups. - Philipp

Keep - seconding the message above - but i also have to note that they aren't just influencing the more local people. because of the popularity they gained since they exist, you can find their output everywhere, if it's an art exibition in Istanbul or a demonstration in the United States. - Michael

Keep - I do not see any reason for deleting. User:Jope

Keep - it is also listed on de.wikipedia.org and returns thousands of entries in the .de, .at and .ch google. User:fra

Keep - good entry User:smurfit Smurfit 13:34, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Keep - Monochrom is important, in austria as well as in europe and worldwide. they are avant-garde. they are active since 1994, cooperated with austrian and international artists and have an enourmous output, including several books they publish. for me it would be necessary to have them in en.wikipedia.org User:hans