Talk:Sokoban

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Enough with the implementations already! Sokoban is probably one of (if not the most) reimplemented puzzle games for computers. Given that most of the generic implementations can be readily googled, I think that having so many external links is pointless. I plan (a) to tidy up the external link section and (b) remove the external links from the variants section, unless someone can present a good reason why I shouldn't.--Malcohol 12:10, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd suggest grouping them, using different levels of bullet points. Really only the most popular implementations should be listed, or at least listed first. On my Sokoban site (not listed in this article, I'm happy to say) I simply link to someone that maintains a larger list of links, namely Sokosave.  — Lee J Haywood 18:40, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What about keepin (though maybe organized) all the info together? Future readers just get it all in one place (and no googling: who said google was part of the wikipedia project?). I'd even dream of a place that would complete it with some way to retrieve the referred docs (a bit the way google/yahoo caches do, to mention them). Reasons? The content can't be defeated, may the web change evidences would remain. knowledge & memory. good article & thanks || Zui 15:26, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I made most of the edits I intended to. My worry was that the external links section would end up with a link to almost every implemenation of the game. Considering the article is a short one, this would be inappropriate. Currently the list seems under control, but I will trim it down if it gets out of control again.--Malcohol 17:26, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Another day, another random sokoban implementation added to the list! Sigh. A suggestion: we create List of Sokoban implementations and let people add their implementation there, where it won't affect the main article. --Malcohol 14:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking of suggesting that same idea, but I'm not aware of any precedence for a list of external links – in this case where those implementations probably wouldn't have their own articles. On the other hand, perhaps we should consider writing articles for individual implementations that are well-known? Other computer games, not to mention numerous TV series, often get such treatment.   — Lee J Haywood 20:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

On second thought, an article that I started/designed, Wikipedia:WAP access is a list of external links with an explanation for each. I suggest moving the current list from the main article to the new one, then we can all contribute to the new page.   — Lee J Haywood 20:32, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Good stuff. I'm too busy right now to manage this, so if you want to, please go ahead. If no one has made a start on it by next week, I'll do it.--Malcohol 14:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm. I just visited Rogue (computer game) which has a list of "Ports, Clones and Remakes". This seems to work quite well, and might serve for the Sokoban page for now. We might still need a seperate page if the list gets unwealdy.--Malcohol 13:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC). Done --Malcohol 10:25, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I remember making some sokoban-maps for Crossfire_(computer_game) back in 1993. It has the mechanics needed for creating sokoban-like puzzles. Filik (talk) 15:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Remm'ed variants links

I am trying to squash a spammer, User:Funpcgame, and in the processed noticed your External links. I removed all variants, since that seemed excessive (and aforementioned spammer added himself here). I also suggest paring down the list much further, or it's just bait for spammers. --Storkk 12:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Erim Sever's Web resource

I see there is some to-ing and fro-ing on whether Erim Sever's Sokoban web page is a suitable link for the External Links section. It was originally removed because "The language and the layout quality of the web-site is not good enough". While I agree that the layout and writing are poor, I don't see why that should justify reason for its removal (see Wikipedia:External_links#What_to_link). It should rather be judged on its content. I haven't checked the site in detail, but it does look to be quite comprehensive. --Malcohol 13:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Kwirk

There was a "see also" to the game Kwirk here but it was removed. I think that removal was hasty. I appreciate that this page is subject to a lot of spamming by numerous commercial and non-commercial implementations, but interesting Sokoban-like games which have their own Wikipedia page surely deserve to be referenced. --Malcohol (talk) 16:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I made the removal, but on second thought, you're right: it was too hasty; I'm sorry. If "Chip's Challenge" should be listed under "see also", then "Kwirk" should have the same right. I won't object if you put "Kwirk" back on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.206.120 (talk) 11:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Spelling variations

Is there more information about the correct spelling of this game's name? I see a personal website that shows a literal Romanji translation and the now-official translation. There's also automatic romanji translators that convert it into "soukoban", and other places that indicate a mistranslation as well. The official translation seemed to win, but it's something that can be documented. --Sigma 7 (talk) 21:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC).

free-version

This article being listed in "free games," wouldn't it make sense for (at least) a link in the "external links" section be made to a download of such a game? For example, http://sites.google.com/site/twipley/games; however, the real problem is that most versions seem OS-dependent. Twipley (talk) 01:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the real problem is that this article gets bombarded with links to free and commercial versions of Sokoban, to the extent that it became unusable. The consensus seems to be that no such links should be accommodated. See discussion above. Besides, any decent search engine will link to numerous versions.Malcohol (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I think it's worth to gather links to Sokoban clones, especially for the open source ones. We can gather the links in the talk page for the moment. Later we can decide where to save them: at external links or maybe on Wikia. Here two such open source clones:

• Sokoban YASC, an open source version of the game
• JSoko, an open source version of the game written in Java

—  Ark25  (talk) 20:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Shove it!

Sega Mega Drive have a video game in 1989 for Japanese Version, & 1990 for English Version.--على المزارقه (talk) 17:54, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

References

UNIX port?

Under "Development":

In 1988 Sokoban was published in US by Spectrum HoloByte for the Commodore 64, IBM-PC, Unix, Commodore Amiga and Apple II series as Soko-Ban.

I'd love to know what UNIX this was ported to in 1988? The link to the specific version by Spectrum Holobyte only lists Commodore 64, DOS, Apple II, and BBC Micro. Maybe some exotic OS for BBC Micro? I have no idea...

Mercster (talk) 17:35, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

on digital cameras

One implementation I know of is on Magic Lantern for some Canon EOS cameras: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=4691.0 Erik Krause (talk) 22:38, 9 February 2023 (UTC)