Talk:Full Collapse

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Notice: Noncompliant Section

This is mostly original research / unsourced material. Unless credible interpretations or band commentary can be provided, this section must be reconstructed with the first step of said reconstruction being a total deletion of the section. --Haizum 11:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've let enough time pass and no objections have been made. I will remove the noncompliant section at this point. --Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 10:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since the unsourced material has been removed, perhaps it would be reasonable to remove the Unsourced article tag at the top? I'll do this sometime later on if there are no objections. Geekdog 16:56, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I'll let you do the honors. --Haizum μολὼν λαβέ 19:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

Reverted the genre to Post-hardcore from Indie rock. The post-hardcore page lists Thursday as an archetypal post-hardcore band, whereas they don't appear on the list of indie rock artists. If you object to this, please say something on this talk page before doing a revert. Geekdog 18:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hearshot Kid Disaster

Was removed because the "Paris in Flames" in the song is a story reference to Paris:Earth 3, a fictional planet from Claudio Sanchez's (of Coheed and Cambria) Amory Wars comic book series.

I've always wondered about this, if it has a connection with Thursday or not... I mean, they're from the same city, they have been on tour together more than once... I don't know - Rafael Carrillo

Jazz sensibilities?

This statement is unsourced and doesn't tell the reader much about the album; removing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.81.198 (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Kncny11 (talk · contribs) 22:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhhh, great band, great album! I'll be taking a look at this GAN. Any section with a Working tag means that I haven't finished combing through it, but feel free to start making changes as soon as you see them. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 22:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lede

"It was released on April 10, 2001, through Victory Records. The band signed to Victory Records after leaving Eyeball Records." → "It was releaed on April 10, 2001, through Victory Records, to whom the band signed after leaving Eyeball Records."
No comma after "several issues with Victory Records"

Background and production

"Thursday's debut studio album, Waiting, was released" → "Thursday released their debut album, Waiting,"
WL Waiting (Thursday album)
"They had multiple people filling in for guitar as they didn't have a permanent second guitarist." → "As they lacked a permanent second guitarist, the band had multiple people filling in on guitar."
"who's" → "whose"
"Eyeball was aware that Thursday was outgrowing what support they could provide the band. As a result, they asked other labels to sign the band." → "Eyeball was aware that Thursday was outgrowing what support they could provide, and asked other labels to sign the band."
"Their debut" → "Waiting"
""a situation that we would regret."" → ""a situation that we would regret"." per MOS:LQ
Which "single person" wrote most of Waiting?

Not mentioned in source. Yeepsi (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Use Rickly's full name and position in the band at his first mention
"They wrapped up a tour of the United States before going to record a new album." → "They began recording the new album after a US tour."
WL Jersey City, New Jersey

Music and lyrics

"as post-hardcore" → "as a post-hardcore release"
"switches from" → "switches between"
Remove comma after "typical traits of emo"
WL first instance of "Understanding in a Car Crash" in the body
"and subsequently visiting the hospital" → "and his subsequent visit to the hospital"
""within the realm of hardcore."" → ""within the realm of hardcore"." per MOS:LQ

Release

"On February 5, 2001, Full Collapse was announced for release for two months later." → "Thursday announced Full Collapse on February 5, 2001, for release two months later."
No comma after "April 10, 2001"
"The band hoped" → "the band hoped"
No commas around "Tony Brummel"
WL Tony Brummel
"1-page" → "one-page" per MOS:NUMBERS
"After three shows part of the Warped Tour" → "After three shows with Warped Tour"
When was the "Cross Out the Eyes" music video released?

Specific date not mentioned in source. Yeepsi (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Split sentence beginning "In February 2002" into two sentences at the dash.
"During the same month" → "The same month,"
Replace em dash in "Canada-US border" with en dash
"detailing the internal problems" → "detailing their internal problems"
Comma after "album art for Full Collapse"
Comma after "Thursday-branded whoopee cushions"
Comma after "regarding art direction and promotion"
"Thursday wasn't" → "Thursday was not" per MOS:N'T
"Only allowed them to leave Victory for a major label"
"The band appeared at the Bizarre ..."
"weren't planning" → "were not planning" per MOS:N'T

Critical reception

"AbsolutePunk writes that" → "AbsolutePunk wrote that"
"He says the" → "He said that the"
""matter of mere seconds."" → ""matter of mere seconds"." per MOS:LQ
No commas around "Aubin Paul"
"Aubin Paul says the" → "Aubin Paul said the"
"He adds that" → "He added that"
"DaveyBoy says that" → "DaveyBoy said that"
""most immediate album of all time,"" → ""most immediate album of all time"," per MOS:LQ
""hardly put a foot wrong."" → ""hardly put a foot wrong"." per MOS:LQ
"He praises the musicianship" → "He praised the musicianship"
"Hiller finds that" → "Hiller found that"
""screamy, then brutal."" → ""screamy, then brutal"." per MOS:LQ
"Exclaim! writes that" → "Exclaim! wrote that"
Pipe Quicksand to Quicksand (American band)
WL Sense Field
""and Sense Field."" → ""and Sense Field"."
"Jonah Bayer says" → "Jonah Bayer said"
"Edwards finds" → "Edwards found"
"He notes" → "He noted"
"Morris writes" → "Morris wrote"
""generating intelligent music,"" → ""generating intelligent music"," per MOS:LQ
""unexciting or blasé."" → ""unexciting or blasé"." per MOS:LQ
"He says" → "He said"
""not being overbearing."" → ""not being overbearing"." per MOS:LQ
"Carr says that" → "Carr said that"
"Magazine writes that" → "Magazine wrote that"
""moments of interest."" → ""moments of interest"." per MOS:LQ

Commercial performance and legacy

Move ref [47] to the end of the first sentence rather than the second
"In February 2009, it was announced that the band would perform the album in its entirety" → "In February 2009, Thursday announced that they would perform Full Collapse in its entirety"

Track listing, personnel, and charts

Include songwriters in the track listing

Writer credits aren't mentioned in the booklet. Yeepsi (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pipe "producer" to Record producer
Pipe "engineer" to Audio engineer
Pipe "mixing" to Mixing engineer
Pipe "mastering" to Mastering engineer

References

In ref [7], the author is listed as the work, and the work (Rolling Stone) is not mentioned at all

General comments

Image is fair use and appropriate
Article is stable

On hold until issues are fixed.

Made the changes. Yeepsi (talk) 08:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making those! Passing now. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 01:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]