Talk:List of massively multiplayer online games

Puzzle Pirates

Puzzle Pirates should not be in the Browser category, as it is usable with no browser whatsoever, but I am unsure what other category it could go into.

Galaxylife has been cancaled so I took it off

Battlefield Heroes an MMO?

Maybe add all Battlefield series? And World of tanks, MW2-3 and many other? Its all have a same gameplay! If Battlefield Heroes MMOFPS, so and counter-stike MMOFPS! Sarcasm. I think need to exclude Battlefield Heroes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.202.36.245 (talk) 12:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

World of Tanks is not MMOG, despite they position themselves that way. It's just a marketing trick so they can advertise game on popular MMO portal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.26.197.175 (talk) 22:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Americas Army an MMO?

Is this right? I looked in the article and it just comes across as your typical FPS shooter with standard online multiplay, not a Massively Multiplayer Online FPS. DarkSaber2k 10:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

CodeRED: Alien Arena
Combat Arms (video game)
Quake Live
FPS, yes.
MMOFPS, no.
81.79.210.120 (talk) 19:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Historical/Defunct Games

Games come and go -- and those of particular note (even if not significant enough to merit their own article) need to be listed somewhere, perhaps with a brief, one-line description. Obviously "Everquest" will have its own article years and years into the future, but even minor games that were innovative, particularly good, particularly bad, etc deserve at least some remembrance.

I propose the creation of either a Historical / Defunct games article (probably best) or alternatively, a section in the existing article -- This suggestion applies to MMOG, MMORPG, etc.

Perhaps MMOG (defunct), etc as as general disambiguity naming convention.

Other comments? EggplantWizard 20:29, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. We should start with a section in the existing article and then split it when the list starts to overwhelm the rest of the article (which probably wouldn't take long, considering how many games have been created over the years). Notability is important, though, so I'd only suggest this for games which have had a solid fanbase (a minimum of, perhaps, 5,000 active users at a game's peak), otherwise the article would be way too long. --Josh1billion 08:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Missing Genre in the list.

One area missing in the MMO List.

MMO SPORTS GAMES

There are a number of existing MMO sports games and several presently in Beta or Development. I would supply a list of Suggestions but as I work in the industry I don't want to risk breaking the rules about COI.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Empire Of Sports (talk • contribs) 17:56, 16 July 2007

I've added the section, and the only two examples that I know of. --McGeddon 18:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the unsigned, this is still a bit new to me :). There is also Pangya which is listed on Wiki already and has been around for a few years. -- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Empire Of Sports (talk • contribs) 15:08, 18 July 2007.

Added.--McGeddon 15:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Soldat?

I would definately not consider Soldat an mmog. I move for it to be removed.

Advert?

I noticed somebody put The Tempest Project in almost all the categories with an outside link. Could somebody please put it into one category - I haven't played it so I don't know.~~Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 09:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If it's an external link, it's spam - this page is a list of MMOGs notable enough to have Wikipedia articles written about them. I've removed it entirely. --McGeddon 09:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Red Links?

Is someone making pages on them? oh, and i added DragonFable and MechQuest to the list of browser games. I am making a page for MechQuest. Kcollis (talk) 15:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

GunZ: The Duel?

GunZ is a third-person shooter, not a first-person. I'd say we should change the "First-person shooters" to "Shooting games" or something along those lines. Cloudbreath9 (talk)

Removal of Red links?

Is someone doing this? I would do it but I'm not if they are meant to be there --Kiwi 05:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

notability

hi. why can't entries be kept on items which don't have their own articles? Often, it's precisely because an item doesn't have its own article, that it is added to a list article, in order to provide basic details and information. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 16:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

According to WP:SAL, each entry on a list should have its own Wikipedia article or it should be reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future. If a topic is not notable enough to have an article that would survive an AFD, it shouldn't be on a list either. This is the only thing that keeps list articles from turning into spam linkfarms. - MrOllie (talk) 16:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your reply. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:SAL#Lead_and_selection_criteria:

When deciding what to include on a list, ask yourself:

If this person/thing/etc., wasn't an X, would it reduce their fame or significance?

Would I expect to see this person or thing on a list of X?

Is this person or thing a canonical example of some facet of X?

Ideally each entry on a list should have its own Wikipedia article but this is not required if it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future. The one exception is for list articles that are created explicitly because the listed items do not warrant independent articles: an example of this is List of minor characters in Dilbert.

The items which i tried to add meet this test; in fact, they meet it for an extremely simple and specific reason which i can easily submit to you all here. namely they are an example of a rare type of free MMOG, in that they are both browser-based, and provide full 3d rendering. for this reason, i feel that they really need to be on this list. I disagree with the articles-only policy, and am not sure why it is used here, and am not sure how it benefits us, Wikipedia or this article. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 16:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

There's also the issue that the wikilinks you put in go to articles on separate topics that happen to have the same name. If these are notable games, I'd recommend writing the articles first and coming back and inserting links to the disambiguated article names in lists and such later. - MrOllie (talk) 16:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I accept your last point, but I still stand by my main point; namely, that items even without their own entries should be allowed to be included in these lists. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 16:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Quake Live?

C'mon. Who is honestly editing these. Since when is quake live an MMOFPS. It's just a browser version of quake. This is no different than the old MMOFPS list before the articles were merged. Does anyone have a source that calls this game an MMOFPS even? 69.221.252.96 (talk) 20:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

List criteria

I'm thinking it's time to establish the criteria for games to appear on this list. There are a few games that are simply multiplayer rather than massively multiplayer, and there are also games that support multiple players but are essentially single player in that you don't actually interact with any other players. Ideas? Wyatt Riot (talk) 08:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

 Done per WP:BOLD. Wyatt Riot (talk) 11:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy Farm

I would like to add this to the list, but don't know where it goes. Building? Social? Please help. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Minecraft

I do think that Minecraft is notable, from personal reading on several gaming sites + the large numbers of reference on the Wikipedia page.

Should you add it?

Chealar (talk) 16:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Question isn't that Minecraft is notable, as demonstrated by the existence of its article. Question is whether it's an MMO, or, y'know, massively single-player. —chaos5023 (talk) 17:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

True... Is there any discussion on what does the "MMO" term entails? Chealar (talk) 15:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

There's an article at Massively multiplayer online game. To see if it's appropriate to label any particular game as an MMO, we should ideally turn to reliable sources. However, as a shorthand, it's sometimes acceptable to look at that game's article, because the article itself should be based on reliable sources and also give an indication of how to label the game. Wyatt Riot (talk) 15:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Players online

Count of players is public available in some games. It is useful to display this number in table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.98.23.222 (talk) 17:18, 26 September 2016 (UTC) The numbers are on public webpages, but some kind of parser will be neccessary for inserting the current value to live table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.41.69.175 (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Have found 6: Eve online, Minecraft, Star wars, Star trek, Elder scrolls online, Lord of the rings online. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.55.255.41 (talk) 08:37, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Go has probably more players online, but cannot find official number :-( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.215.118.18 (talk) 09:09, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

World of tanks, Warthunder and World of Warships are not MMOs

Let's look at the definition of MMO from Wikipedia. "A massively multiplayer online game (MMOG or MMO) is an online game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players, typically from hundreds to thousands, simultaneously in the same instance (or world). MMOs usually feature a huge, persistent open world, although some games differ." These games can only have a few dozens of players in a lobby at once, at maximum. They can't reach the hundreds. They do not feature persistent worlds. I suggest these games are removed from this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.167.112.182 (talk) 01:39, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

The official World of Tanks website states it is a team-based MMO. The official War Thunder website states it is a cross-platform MMO combat game.

If World of Tanks is a MMO game, I don't see any reason why World of Warships wouldn't be, following the same logic. Wumbolo (talk) 14:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

It's not because the game's company says their game is an MMO that it's one. Please reread the definition of MMO and then compare it to the games themselves. They feature at MAXIMUM a few dozens of players in the same instances. Also, these instances are not permanent. They only exist for less than an hour, the time to finish the match. Exactly like pretty much every other non-MMO multiplayer game out there. Therefore, WoWS, WoT and Warthunder aren't MMOs. I suspect the companies that make these games falsely label them as MMOs as a marketing strategy. The games should be removed from this list. 206.167.112.182 (talk) 22:34, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Reverting this. Please see consensus from Talk:World of Tanks#MMO aspects. 9³ 02:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

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