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Please add "Sikhim" as obsolete toponym

in some references the area is referred to by Sikhim, please add this as a previous name. See, for example, https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sikhim and https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Sikhim_and_Bhutan. 2600:1013:B024:FE8F:3498:3774:CD33:6364 (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

India "bent on annexation"

I have deleted the clause "Despite pressures from an India "bent on annexation"", which was apparently sourced to New York Times 1981. That was really a story on Hope Cook, the erstwhile queen of Sikkim, but pretending to be objective history. This kind of royalist nonsense can be found through the journalistic writings on Sikkim.

See the demographic data, which shows Sikkimese at 6.86% of the population. That is the community to which the king belonged. How long such a tiny minority community can hold on to power through autocratic means, is anybody's guess.

A scholarly source says this:

It is ironical that the Chogyal's firmest ally from 1950 to 1973 had been the Indian Government, who in a way had protected him from the people for its own pragmatic ends. Without the Indian shield the Chogyal was cast aside in a tremendous upsurge of anti-Bhutia and anti-royalist feeling.^[1]

It was because of India's support that the king retained power for as long as he did. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 02:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another quote:

In the United States Hope Cooke, the American Gyalmo was also supposed to have inspired some newspapers into giving anti-Indian coverage. With an obvious and complete ignorance of the historical position between India and Sikkim, India was accused in some places of expansionism and annexation. All these reports however overlooked the fact that Sikkim had for a long time not been a sovereign state and that it was only a protectorate of Great Britain and thereafter of India.^[2]

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gupta, Ranjan (September 1975), "Sikkim: The Merger with India", Asian Survey, 15 (9): 786–798, JSTOR 2643174
^ Sen, S. C. (1975), "Sikkim—Where Feudalism fights Democracy", Verfassung und Recht in Übersee / Law and Politics in Africa, Asia and Latin America, 8 (3/4): 345–364, JSTOR 43108474

There is no language called sikkimese in sikkim

In sikkim there is no language called sikkimese. Main languages of sikkim are Nepali, bhutia, lepcha, etc. Here the bhutia language is represented as sikkimese which is highly misleading. Please change this Kkk1996 (talk) 15:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Wikipedia we use something called the WP:COMMONNAME In this case, the commonname of the subject 'in Wikipedia' is Sikkimese language not Bhutia language, hence we use the former. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That means wikipedia is misleading and discrminating to other sikkimese language speaking people like nepali, lepcha, mangar, newar, limboo etc. if nepali, lepcha are mentioned separately then bhutia should also be mentioned separately Kkk1996 (talk) 16:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the policy, can't change it. If you want, you can request a name change RfC at Talk:Sikkimese language. If the RfC is in favor of the change "Sikkimese language → Bhutia Language", then only it can be changed throughout Wikipedia, at which point the new name will be the common name. Obviously, common name depends on the most common usage in English language reliable sources. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding initiatives of making Sikkim a nature friendly state

Sikkim is among the first few states in India to have banned plastic bags in 1998. It is also an organic state that promotes organic farming. These details should be mentioned on this article. Abhijitgupta28 (talk) 19:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Organic farming is covered already. There is a different mention of plastic where your addition would also fit. CMD (talk) 00:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Government and Politics section, we may add this....'In 1998, Sikkim became the first Indian state to ban disposable plastic bags.' just after the reference 81. Abhijitgupta28 (talk) 13:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The flower pictured as "noble orchid" under flora & fauna section is not dendrobium nobile

a cymbidium is pictured where the actual state flower, dendrobium nobile, belongs 203.30.15.32 (talk) 04:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2024

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Under Geography subheading Flora and Fauna, pls change the image of Cymbidium goeringii to an image of Dendrobium nobile. Both flowers are known as noble orchids, but only Dendrobium nobile is the state flower of Sikkim. Scorchids (talk) 04:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gupta, Ranjan (September 1975), "Sikkim: The Merger with India", Asian Survey, 15 (9): 786–798, JSTOR 2643174

[2] Sen, S. C. (1975), "Sikkim—Where Feudalism fights Democracy", Verfassung und Recht in Übersee / Law and Politics in Africa, Asia and Latin America, 8 (3/4): 345–364, JSTOR 43108474

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