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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge to Orc (Warcraft). The merge has already been carried out, so nothing left but to redirect. -- BD2412 talk 20:27, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Chaos Orcs

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Delete as gamecruft. --Halidecyphon 16:10, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Delete If we start posting stuff like this, then this place will just turn into a giant game manual --Dr Ingel 01:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Comment - How is this different from the Pokemon stuff? -- Dpark 20:11, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • The Pokemon people point out that Pokemon is a TV show and set of stories, and individual pokemon have a following and are as notable fictional characters as many cartoon characters or characters in books. Personally, however, I believe that most of the Pokemon do not deserve article as they are not notable. Note that the Pokemon rule is merely a rule of thumb accepted by some wikipedians, and by no means the law of the land. Whether you accept the Pokemon rules or not, Chaos Orcs are far less notable than Pokemon because they do not have movies about them, cult followings, or life stories.--Halidecyphon 21:25, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I feel that I should point out that this article isn't about individual Chaos Orcs, but about the group as a whole. And I daresay that Warcraft has a significant following. Perhaps someone would be willing to improve the article. I don't know enough about Chaos Orcs to input anything useful, but I bet if someone took the time to lay out their abilities and weaknesses, and whatever else, the article would flesh out.
      • Comment. The pokemon deserve their own articles if we are to accept WP:FICT as policy (or pseudo policy), by point 3: Fictional characters which are cultural icons transcending their appearance in a particular work of fiction, or who cannot be neatly tied to a particular work of fiction or fictional universe deserve articles of their own, regardless of other circumstances. --Jonathan Christensen 06:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
        • Comment. Not all pokemon do. Hiding 16:05, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
  • No vote for the time being. I was originally going to vote delete, and then I was going to vote to merge it into an article such as List of species in Warcraft (species? units?) but similar articles have been deleted in the past. If there seems to be a consensus that lists of units in computer games are not notable, then it hardly seems the units themselves are notable. The WP:FICT policy appears to suggest merging in point 2: Minor characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be merged with short descriptions into a "List of minor characters." This list should reside in the article relating to the work itself, unless either becomes long, in which case a separate article for the list is good practice. However, if we were simply to delete that list at some later time as gamecruft, that doesn't make any sense. --Jonathan Christensen 06:31, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Ah, quite right. I didn't realize that article already existed. I now also vote for a merge and delete (or possibly redirect). -- Dpark 04:03, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.
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