Talk:Scotch pie

Deleted comment

I deleted the comment "Much like shephard's [sic] pie". I'm not sure what it meant. Did it mean that a Scotch pie is much like a shepherd's pie (not true), or that shepherd's pie is served at football matches (something I can't confirm or deny)? --Heron 10:01, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Deep-fried?

Are we sure Scotch pies are actually deep-fried? Not sure this would work. A pie has to be baked, surely? - Exile 11:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

According to an article in the Independent Online Edition, "When your deep-fried Scotch pie is getting rained on ..." [1] --Heron 12:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

They really are deep fried, in Glasgow at least. I can confirm this from having eaten them. The chip shops deep fry everything, including pizza slices, haggis, black pudding, sausages, burgers, and spare ribs. Mars bars are a bit of an urban legend though....

I think most sane people draw the line at Mars bars. My father crosses that line, however. - Dudesleeper 20:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

In Scotland, in 20 years, I never saw a pie being cooked. They were always served to me lukewarm having been cooked presumably many hours before. Lukewarm, greasy and with rock-hard pastry. Mmmmm! - Exile 22:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

You buy them cold (as in uncooked) and bake them yourself. At least, that's the only way I've ever had them. - Dudesleeper · Talk 22:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I can also confirm they come deep fried, after being baked obviously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.100.51 (talk) 19:12, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

They CAN be deep fried, like just about anything, including pizza, but the standard is baked.

i would just like to say that deep fried mars bars are no legand!!!! i come from North Scotland and a deep fried mars bar is on most chip shop menu's...... anyone who hasnt tried one should really start looking out for them.....they are so nice :)

They might be occasionally re-heated in a deep-fat frier, but I personally would never touch that kind of pie with a barge pole. I want my pie out the oven.

Naming

The article states that they are known simply as "Pies" in Scotland. I don't know about the rest of you, but everyone I know refer to them as "Scotch Pies" regardless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.162.127 (talk) 16:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I think the article’s correct - they’re widely known as pies/mutton pies and many Scots would be surprised they’re marketed elsewhere as Scotch pies. Zagubov (talk) 21:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Too right, although the prepacked ones are alright if you put them in the oven to firm up the pastry - it seems they're sold half cooked almost, the meat inside is cooked but the pastry requires 10-15 minutes in the oven to make it a real pie. 81.79.156.240 (talk) 01:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It's been edited again by somebody stating they're usually called Scotch pies in Scotland. Has this changed? When I lived there,scotch eggs were called scotch eggs, scotch whisky was just called whisky (but the label said scotch) but pies were just on menus as "pie" and chips etc. Zagubov (talk) 12:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

They are called Scotch Pies in England. In Scotland they are/were usually called Mutton Pies. However, of late in Glasgow, I have come across the former - a sign of creeping anglicisation. I have also heard the term Beef Pies, though that was used by a bakery worker. But they are never called Mince Pies, which are something totally different.

I have never heard them called Scotch pies in England. If they have mutton in them, they are called 'mutton pies'. Mutton is not a common filling for pies compared to pork or beef. Mutton is considered an inferior meat that poor people would typically eat. Paul Hollywood reports, "In the middle ages, they were frowned upon by the Scottish church, viewed as luxurious, decadent English-style food." What suggests they did not originate in Scotland.

References

Pie in photograph

That's a rather obscure pie pictured on this page. Isn't the more traditional style to have an obvious hole in the top?--Breadandcheese (talk) 08:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Not really, they are common ether way. I would more comment on the fact that the top is pretty flush with the outer crust, but hey! I'm sure it helps people get the picture! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.162.127 (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The number of holes in the top of a pie typically indicates the filling used, one or two holes indicates that the pie contains no onion, and onion, respectively. http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/fooddrink.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.2.187 (talk) 23:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

My only problem with the picture is that I have to guess at the size. A person's hand holding the plate would make this clearer. 76.106.149.108 (talk) 21:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

You can easily hold the pie in your hand, and eat it while walking along. It's best served warm (and not deep-fried - "shudder!").