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Queen Elizabeth stretch

To claim that Ingelger is the the forefather of the present Queen of england is to stretch it a bit.

That he is the forefather of Henry II, plantagenet is true, though the british line is broken may times - F.ex. George I (house of hanover) is only on his mother's side affiliated with the norman kings of england and that is only through his mother's mother Elisabeth daughter of James I, who again can only claim to be the great great grand child of Henry VII, king of England again only through the female line.

Accepting such, would mean that all the royal and for that matter most of the noble houses in europe are one big familly. - unsigned comment

. . . which is quite true. --Michael K. Smith 5 July 2005 21:16 (UTC)

Any significant/direct link between Ingelger and the ruling dynasties in Great Britain were broken when James II was usurped. Genelogically as pointed out above, its totally broken after that. I mean if Edward IV of England is illigitimate, as many sources claim he was, then the Tudors and Stuarts in England didn't have a direct link to Ingelger either. If this is the case then the last direct descendent of Ingelger on the throne was Richard III of England. On this basis I am changing the article. - True as Blue (talk) 06:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

......The above is just chat, and words like 'significant' hide that. Elizabeth II is, indeed, descended from Ingelger. Henry VII was a direct descendant of Edward III, who was a direct descendant of Henry II, who was a direct descendant of Ingelger. Through Robert the Bruce she is also descended from the Capet, Vermandois and every other regal family throughout Europe that one could hope to name. Genes are not interested in male supremacy so the line, whether male or female is, genetically, equally valid. Can I also add that George I had exactly the same number and quality of Stewart genes as did Mary II, Queen Anne, and James, the Old Prentender. Everything other argument is based on male supremacy, an idea that shuld have died its death after the outstanding example of Elizabeth I. Brian Hunt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.175.199.239 (talk) 13:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry III Plantagenet is the forefather of Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush, so the present Bush family is a Plantagenet family.

Otherwise, the House of Anjou is of great value in a romance of the middle ages named Parzifal. Why? Because Charles the Great (Calorus Magnus)is the forfather of Ingelger. So, the Plantagenet dinasty and the Bush famaily are descent fron Charles the Great.

The great value of this family is because Mr. Laurence Gardner, author of books like "The Holy Grail" and "Genesis of the Grail Kings" puts Jesus like the forefather of the House of Pepin, Charles Martel and Charles the Great (The Holy Grail, page 351).

If this is true, so George Walker Bush, the actual president of the United States is a descent from Jesus and Mary Magdalene. This is one of the misteries hide in Dan Brown´s book "The Da Vinci Code". In the same way, the actual queen of England Elizabeth II and all Windsor House to.23:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)23:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)~~

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