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	This article should be moved to Desegregation of busing in the United States.
	Reasoning for assessment: A critical topic for the schools project. However, relies heavily on too few sources and needs some organizing/cleanup. Expanded sources, use of media, and attention to prose would push this toward GA. Title is also somewhat unwieldy and should be changed. Adam McCormick (talk) 21:26, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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"After 2007 section"

The After 2007 section states: "Even those school districts that voluntarily created race-conscious programs are under pressure to abandon these efforts as the white parents are refusing to participate in any pupil assignment programs. In some cases, white parents filed reverse discrimination lawsuits in court." While the term "reverse discrimination" is not expressly included in federal civil rights laws, these types of lawsuits are generally brought as discrimination cases under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and other statutes. Because anti-discrimination laws were originally enacted to prevent discrimination against minorities and groups that were historically disadvantaged and denied opportunities in the workplace, there has sometimes existed a perception that members of majority groups are not protected by the same laws. However, these laws generally prohibit all forms of discrimination based on protected characteristics, including those against members of a majority group (as established by the U.S. Supreme Court's 1976 McDonald vs. Santa Fe Trail Transport Co. decision). I am wondering if anyone can provide a anything remotely resembling a citation in this seemingly ad libbed nonsense? I propose to eliminate the section entirely as it is entirely uncited and the use of the term "reverse discrimination" suggests bias.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Colonycat (talk • contribs) 14:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The most common cite in the article: A David Frum book

It's problematic that the article is overwhelmingly reliant on a book by David Frum who is not a subject-matter expert or scholar. He's a pundit with no specific expertise on this topic. Thenightaway (talk) 18:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Challenge claim of failed busing

In the edit of 02:32, 12 January 2024, the claim is made that busing was a "failed attempt to diversify the racial make-up of schools".

The cited source indicates that busing did not eliminate all segregation, but I think it's wrong to simply call it a "failed attempt". Fabrickator (talk) 08:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources in the article do call it "failed" (i.e. #4 for example).....if there are some that call it a success, then we can make room for that too. (By saying something like "some say it was a success, others say it failed...")Rja13ww33 (talk) 18:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Failed attempt removal

Saying that the attempt is failed is definitely political.

The article quoted did not say "failed". That was a violation of Neutral point of View. The article actually quotes Kamala Harris saying that she is a successful product of busing. As another successful product of busing I resent that the word "failed" is being used politically to imply that this was a mistake and should not have been done. I removed it, and I think that it should stay removed. Rozzychan (talk) 17:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources in the article do call it "failed"....others however don't. So perhaps it is best left off (either way).Rja13ww33 (talk) 17:41, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]